We’ve Got A Bigger Problem Now: MRAs are the Top Transmisogynists

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It’s good to be #1. For example, the Oregon Ducks are about to be the National Champions of college football…quack quack! The ubiquity of Starbucks may be fuel for satire, but at the same time it’s a consistent coffee experience where you know what you’re getting from one side of the world to the other, and I am in fact sitting in a Starbucks writing this post. A #1 hit cements you as an artist who will at least be notable for being #1, even if you were the Starland Vocal Band. And, well, #1 means that you’re the top. In High Fidelity, John Cusack identified as being the “number one lover-man in (his) particular postal district.” But #1 can mean bad things, too. For example, in the 1980s, an actor named Ronald Reagan arose to run the US, and the Dead Kennedys, who tragically never had a #1 hit, had to adapt their song about the Fear of a (Jerry) Brown President, “California Uber Alles”, to talk about the actual bigger problem they had now.

We’ve got a bigger problem now, and that bigger problem is the so-called “Men’s Rights” movement, better described as the Misogynist Rights Hate Movement (hereafter MRHM) and their adherents declaring war on trans women. It’s nothing new, as MRA(sshole) leaders like Paul Elam and Mike Cernovich have been spewing transmisogyny in specific along with their usual white supremacist misogynist MRA drivel, but the rise of MRA recruiting through GamerGate has changed the game entirely, and the fact that this MRA hate mob has stressed harassment of trans women is a sign of the new priorities of the MRHM, and the attempt to blame this harassment on “gamer culture” is typical of the MRHM’s work to try to shift blame. After all, misogynist pig Elliott Roger’s killing spree was handwaved away by MRHM members, and the MRHM has worked hard to denigrate the agency of disabled people since they are, after all, a hate mob.

I can go into the reprehensible actions of GamerGate again, but I wrote a post on this already. Nothing’s changed since November, other than Gators rushing to the defense of child porn, since that’s what MRAs do…and even more harassment, because that’s what hate mobs do. I mean, we’ve established that GamerGate is an MRA-linked hate mob, and even if there’s a few people in GamerGate who aren’t MRAs, let’s consider where there’s significant overlap between what the MRHM stands for and what GamerGate stands for.  GamerGate has erupted in defense of the child porn-laden board called 8chan; noted MRA leader Warren Farrell advocated for the normalization and legalization of incest, definitely a form of child sexual abuse, in 1977. So child sexual abuse is cool with MRAs and GamerGate alike. So if child sexual abuse wasn’t enough, there’s the issue of harassment, a core strategy of GamerGate’s campaign to intimidate women in gaming. A member of notorious hate-hive Men’s Rights Edmonton (who has been identified as a leader, but because of the KKK…er, MRHM’s extreme secrecy it’s impossible to verify this, of course) has advocated harassment of, as well as violence against, women participating in a Slut Walk. While GamerGate has had issues with advocating violence as well, the harassment that is central to GamerGate is generally more persistent in being annoying to cause psychological damage.  But let’s be real here: neither GamerGate nor the MRHM has condemned individual actions of harassment perpetrated by their respective hate mobs, often expecting credit for broad pronouncements about harassment but failing to condemn incidents when they happen. And then there’s an admitted MRA themselves admitting that GamerGate is really about recruitment…the “Men’s Rights” Reddit tried to delete this, but this is why you log URLs on Reddit…if you have the URL, it’s forever, and even when a hate group tries to cover their tracks, they leave proof behind.

So we’ve got the misogyny linked up between GamerGate and the MRHM and MRAs themselves admitting that GamerGate is all about the MRAs, baby…let’s talk about transmisogyny and why we have this bigger problem. I’m by no means excusing radical fauxminists (often referred to by a misnomer acronym that rhymes with “serf” that I decline to use) or white religious fundamentalists for their work to oppress trans women, but the “Men’s Rights” hate movement has grown into a bigger threat than anything else. And, well, when it comes to bizarre obsessions with trans women, you can line up the hate-hive that is Reddit’s “men’s rights” community’s strange and creepy obsession with trans women’s bodies with the obsession GamerGate has with harassing trans women, much less implying that women whose gender identity is none of their business may be trans and that that somehow justifies GamerGate’s harassment of them. While we’re at it, the idea that the existence of a trans woman provokes violence and revulsion is an old, tired MRA chestnut, identical to the complaint of other pro-patriarchy activists like radical fauxminists. In fact, MRHM Grand Wizard/Messiah W. F. Price said as much in complaining about the presence of trans women in a bar…or something, you never can really tell with WC Price what he’s on about other than that women exist outside the house and that’s bad in his eyes. And yet GamerGate engages in the same behavior, going so far as to engage in SWATting, a violent activity, against Grace Lynn, where the harassers sent a SWAT team to her former residence and endangered lives, and encouraging mail-based harassment of Twitter user srhbutts, one of the most eloquent and tireless responders to GamerGate misogynist harassment. So if GamerGate isn’t an MRA project, why do their tactics, harassment, misogyny, and transmisogyny all line up perfectly?

Well, you know what the answer is to this question: GamerGate is nothing more than MRAs trying to expand their numbers for their white supremacist misogynist hate mob, and this is why we’ve got a bigger problem now. See, we’ve laughed off MRAs as being misogynist jerks with no power, and to a certain degree despite the transexterminationist nature of MRHM rhetoric and leadership, just ignored them. Similarly, with GamerGate, we’ve allowed GamerGate to determine the tenor of all discussion, and as a result MRHM dominance of this discussion is happening. We have to change our tack in dealing with the MRHM as women in general and as trans women in specific, as the MRHM depends on all the typical tactics of the patriarchy it serves so tirelessly. Things like tone policing anger at GamerGate/MRA harassment when anger is honestly how some people will respond to harassment that is highly personalized and designed to cause harm, or claiming the moral high ground about “doxxing” when online harassers are rightfully named and shamed. See, the thing about freedom of speech is that you well have it, but when you harm people, there are social consequences, and when you threaten people, there are legal consequences. The whole “screaming fire in a crowded theatre” thing is actually not just outdated, but also has a number of strings attached and is a paraphrase of Justice Holmes anyways.

When you harass someone, harassment has consequences. So yes, we need to name and shame people who harass, and we need to fight MRA lies with reality, truth, and, yes, feminism. Being an MRA is not a political choice, it’s the decision to consciously be a white supremacist, misogynist, and transmisogynist asshole. If you choose to enable MRAs, you’re choosing to go along with that even if you claim not to be one, and their blood’s on your hands, too. If you’re the shamelessly hateful thing that is a trans woman MRA, why?  You’re siding with people who want to morally mandate us out of existence, just like Janice Raymond…in fact, Paul Elam’s rhetoric on trans women is nigh-identical to Dr. Raymond. The difference is this: radical fauxminists like Raymond, Cathy Brennan, etc. are a tiny minority in feminism. They’re women who, to satisfy patriarchal masters, punched down on other woman for personal gain. Partnership in a law firm that bullies on behalf of subprime and payday lenders for Brennan, and tenure in the faculty of the University of Massachusetts for Dr. Raymond at a time that UMass/Amherst had a “98%” white and male tenured faculty, at least if Dr. Raymond’s comments in class were to be believed. Radical fauxminism is a tiny chunk of feminism, and I think radical fauxminists are no feminists at all, as putting your hate in a “feminist” wrapper doesn’t make it feminist. I can claim that I’m the Queen of England all that I want, but absent the bona fides, I’m not Elizabeth II, Regina.

And yet mainstream MRHM theology calls for us to be considered oppressed men, or eliminated entirely. How does this make any sense? Why do we tolerate this? Transadvocate has “TE*F Week” but when you comment asking about why similar focus isn’t paid to MRAs, the comment doesn’t pass approval, and nobody stands up against the MRHM in the mainstream of the trans community. We have “STOP TE*FS!!!!!” groups on Facebook, but not groups about the other pro-patriarchy hate groups like MRAs. The laser-like focus on “TE*Fs” is coming at the detriment of all the other people who want to eliminate or harm us, and there’s a whole hell of a lot more mainstream MRAs whose theology calls for our destruction or harm than the small handful of radical fauxminists…mainstream third-wave feminism, what GamerGate whines its pants off about, is not actively transmisogynist, whereas MRAs are just that.  Our focus has to change, and we’re well overdue for a change. See, patriarchy is like the Lernaean Hydra: you can’t cut off just one head, you have to cut off all the heads or the hydra lives on. And, well, when  considering who actively works to harm trans women, we have the HBSers who harm from within, the aforementioned radical fauxminists aka TE*Fs, the “Men’s Rights” Klan, and fundamentalist religion, generally concentrated in white Southern Baptist fundamentalism. All these heads have to be dealt with, and hoping that ignoring the MRHM will make it go away has clearly failed now that the MRHM has acquired more members, and now we have the aforementioned bigger problem…a larger number of people willing to engage in the misogynist, white supremacist, transmisogynist harassment and hatred that the “Men’s Rights” movement stands for.

We can’t sit here and twiddle our thumbs anymore. The seething hatred of Paul Elam, W.F. Price, and Mike Cernovich, all MRA Messiahs who preach their hate theology about women, especially women of color and trans women, is what this army is willing to follow. We have to change, we have to respond, we have to be willing to say “no” to MRA demands (and we know how much MRAs hate hearing women say “no”), and we have to be supported by the vast majority of decent human beings out there who haven’t embraced MRA hate theology under the thinnest veneer of claims that it’s about “ethics in games journalism.” The MRAs are our #1 threat now, and we need to stop knuckling under.

As for what to do, and more ties between MRA hate theology and radical fauxminist hate theology, tune in next week, I’m close to 2000 words and Starbucks morphed into Denny’s when writing this…and my Moons over My Hammy beckons.

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21 thoughts on “We’ve Got A Bigger Problem Now: MRAs are the Top Transmisogynists

  1. Definitely agree that MRAs should be taken just as seriously as any hate group; I’ve been confused and disgusted by seemingly progressive people associating with them, and clearly delineating what they stand for is definitely necessary. I’m curious to see your thoughts on tackling the problem.

    • Truly progressive people have had enough of feminists anti-humanists hypocrisy.

      (Again, left the first sentence for humor value, removed slur-filled garbage.)

      • So since you couldn’t behave, Ed, had to clean up another one of your comments. Such a shame that MRAssholes can’t seem to leave polite, reasoned comments and instead just go for the wall of BS.

        That said, that’s a hell of a No True Scotsman argument right there in the first sentence. Progress involves smashing the patriarchy, MRAsshole theology is doubling down on patriarchy, degendering me and mine, and oh yeah, promoting white supremacy. So why should I want your idea of “progress”?

        Oh, wait, I don’t get to come along in your vision of progress, right? Because that’s not creepy…

  2. It’s so hypocritical for feminists to all MRAs sexist.

    (lies removed)

    feminism is a whiny, cunty, superifical hate group of disgusting sexists
    you sound like a bigot and an abuser.

    lol the MRM is going to grow more and more. honestly intactivism alone will pretty much end feminism within 10 years. im AMAZED that you guys think you can win…..do you really think people are going to buy your drivel about how prostate cancer isnt a serious disease, and that researching it is misogynstic?

    you’re literally human trash I hope you get raped again, plastic bitch

    • Thomas

      “you’re literally human trash I hope you get raped again, plastic bitch”

      Your Misogynist Rights Hate Movement, right there.

      ps: I never mentioned prostate cancer, and most trans women have a prostate (I don’t because weird), nor is there an ounce of evidence of feminist opposition to prostate cancer research, that’s a funny straw man to draw. Nor did I mention being a rape survivor in this post. But…wow.

    • WhoTheHell_Cares

      …thank you for your contribution, but calling a movement a “hate group” doesn’t make it so. Whereas the Man Klux Klan’s own leadership, people like Elam, Price, Cernodouche, etc. that your hate mob refers to as leaders are calling for my extermination.

      Fighting back against patriarchy is “hate”? That’s lovely.

      • Feminists are the patriarchy.

        (Rest of comment deleted for being slur-filled nonsense. Left the first sentence for humor value.)

      • But I thought to the MRAsshole worldview there was nothing wrong with patriarchy and/or the patriarchy doesn’t exist.

        Removed the balance of your comment for being slur-filled nonsense. Step your game up if you think you’re gonna comment here. If you want to spout hateful MRAsshole bullshit, I hear there’s a bunch of boards on Reddit for that, but you ain’t doing it on my time.

    • And yet now he’s a member of the Misogynist Rights Hate Movement and has been for, uh, quite some time.

      It’s who said it, i.e. a pro-hatred leader of the Man Klux Klan, not the ideology he allegedly subscribed to in 1977. I mean, I was a gamete in 1977, does that mean I’m a gamete now?

      You’re not gonna be able to hang this one on “feminism” try though you may.

      • Sorry, Valerie, but you’ve long-since-forfeited your ability to spread your pro-MRAsshole shit here.

        That said, since you’ve imparted elsewhere that I’m saying to give up on radfauxs/T**Fs, you’re full of shit at worst and toxically disingenuous at best. Just because I’m saying to pay attention to all pro-patriarchy activism, such as that practiced by you, W.F. Price, Cathy Brennan, Bess Hungerfod, and the like doesn’t mean I’m saying give up on radfauxs.

        Au contraire. It’s just naming the real problem, and if you insist on lying down with MRAsshole dogs over and over and over, embracing their white supremacist bullshit (warning: token incoming!), and glossing over the fact that MRAsshole Messiahs like Elam and Price want to “morally mandate (us) out of existence”, I’m going to identify you as working for people who believe I should be morally mandated out of existence. You, Aoife, Miranda Y…birds of a hateful feather flock to hate together.

        If you really believe that casting in your lot with genocidal fools is a good idea, have at it. But I reserve the right to point out that this is what you’re doing, what Aoife is doing, etc. You make the choice to lie down with the Man Klux Klan, your free choice, but I reserve the right to hold people who work for the oppression of me and mine accountable.

        ps: before you claim that a “heterodyne” is a swing at something though your obtuse re-interpretation of English, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodyne …nope. Have a nice day and remember that embracing patriarchy doesn’t do jack shit for the rights of any woman, regardless of your gender identity.

        Be seeing you now, surely whining on Tumblr that Erica was a huge meaniepants to you and touchstoning your imaginary “receipts” that involve your massively misquoting me and putting words in my mouth.


  3. (Original comment in italics, my commentary in non-italics. Oh no, I “edited” it, Thomas. Go cry to /r/mensrights and make sure not to use gender pronouns to whine about me. Stay classy, Reddit shitfuck haters.)

    holy fuck, you literally edited my messae…what the fuck makes you think you have the right to lie about people and then dox them and spread their email and ip Address?

    It’s not “doxxing” when you agreed to provide your IP address when you chose to comment. Nice try misusing a hot-button term. As for snipping the lies out of your post, go make your own blog for spewing MRAsshole bullshit, I’m not giving you a platform. Generally, when people make comments that encourage violence, the person making the comment should be accountable. Accountability for hatespew and what could be termed “harassment” isn’t “doxxing”, but you tried.

    literally wtf, feminis is a arbae hate nazi group….why were you a coward and remove the lies? why not leave them if they’re not true? and how dare you edit me!

    This is an Ericaocracy, not a democracy. You sought out my blog somehow and decided to go with wishing violence on me. I don’t know what the hell “arbae” means, but google isn’t doing anything nor is Bing, and…uh, “coward”? Lol, an MRAsshole called me a coward and a bitch. I must be doing something right.

    As for “Nazi”, no, I’m not a National Socialist. I’m also a disabled person, something the Nazis hated (and that coincidentally MRA theology marks as disposable) and a woman of color, something that white supremacists like MRAssholes don’t like…oh and hey Nazis hated people of color too. I mean…I think if you’re looking for the National Socialist maybe take a gander in the mirror. Need me to tell you where to pick up a brown shirt? You can’t be down with MRAssholes without being down with the white supremacy inherent to MRAsshole hate theology, and you’re calling me an “arbae…nazi”? Precious.

    But now I want Arby’s. Mmmmm, Arby’s.

    -thomas carney, proud anti-feminist MRA, and will tell my wife and daughter that

    So you’re a proud abuser who believes in the subjugation of women. Got it, Thomas…may your daughter and wife leave you and get to safety as soon as possible.

  4. why do you not understand why slicing off the majority of erogenous tissue from a baby is wrong? tbh, you kinda DO justify misoyny. no male would find that an acceptable thin to do to a baby girl. its only women who have no problem permanently disfiguring the genitals of the other gender

    • Annnnnd I said nothing about circumcision nor have I at any point on my blog, but “you kinda do justify misogyny” is precious.

      ps: I’m a survivor of intersex genital mutilation, so in raising things I never said, you chose poorly in what straw man to attack. How very sensitive.

  5. “normalization and legalization of not just child sexual abuse but incest”
    I don’t get why incest is mentioned there as if incest was worse than sexual abuse of children. Should’ve been the other way around perhaps?

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